Contract pay query

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Contract pay query

Post by benbenben » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:53 am

I've received my contract last night and read it this morning.

The contract states a starting salary of £22,224 (£18,995 base salary and £3,229 unsocial hours).

The conditional offer I accepted was for a salary minimum of £26,456, I believe this includes the unsocial hours and the £3,000 extra for the hard to recruit prisons.

I've emailed back to query before I accept this but has anyone else had the same issues?
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Re: Contract pay query

Post by JB8279 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:09 am

I had a similar query with my contract.

The £3000 (or £5000 for some prisons) is an allowance for prisons finding it difficult to recruit and is not part of your salary as it's only available for 2 years before "being reviewed".

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by Hilts » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:43 am

I may be wrong but think this is while you are on training but sure the more experienced guys will answer

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by laticsash92 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:02 am

Youll get less while on training then will get the original pay when you start at your establishment.

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by danboy17 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:20 pm

You accept a conditional offer for the establishment and not the salary as if you read the wording on the adverts it will say they are for a 39 or 41 hour week.

It will actually say on your contract that you will have the option to work extra hours and if you accept then you will be issued with new terms and conditions. To get the £26,456 you will have to agree to work a 39 hour week when you go to establisment


However all contracts start as a 37 hr week contract as these are the hours you do on POELT

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by benbenben » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:25 pm

Thanks guys, so I'm safe to fill out and return the forms? And then when I opt for say 39/40 hours I'll get a new contract?

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by david756 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:14 pm

Man if they take that additional £3000 I’m gonna be pissed.
Left my current role and took a pay cut to join as it is what I wanted to do, but an overall pay cut of around £7000 if that £3000 goes will be difficult to swallow.

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by benbenben » Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:28 pm

I got a letter to sign with my contract to say that the extra £3000 for the hard to recruit and retention package will be reviewed after 4 years and that if it gets withdrawn then hmpps have been assured and they assure me that no one will be financially damaged if it does get withdrawn .

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by manc-apollo » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:02 pm

No you will not get a new contract if you opt to do 39 or 31 hour contract.

Some jails do not profile shifts for 41hr contracts. Most do 37 to 39, you can only request to do 39 or 41hrs and your request can be turned down.

There are a few threads with abit more indepth answer if someone would like to read them usethe search function 😊👍

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by danboy17 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:08 pm

bit confused as my contract states i will be offered the opportunity to work additional hours at my establishment and if i accept a 39 or 41 hr rota i will be given new terms and conditions.

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by david756 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:16 pm

Yeah that’s what mine says. Bloody contracts.

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by manc-apollo » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:15 pm

Anything over 37 hours a non pensionable hours as well.

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by Lthenewbie » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:15 pm

Tbh I'm going to speak to pr and my poelt mentor as the job I applied for the only salary listed is 21902 theres no lower or higher amount also my conditional offer was for 21902 so to now try and pay less would be wrong in my opinion .

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by manc-apollo » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:42 pm

That is a 39hr contract. You will apply for the extra 2 hours after poelt or near the end of it. They will not pay that till after training. I think a 37hr contract is 20,500 or something near that.

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Re: Contract pay query

Post by Lthenewbie » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:48 pm

I see just a bit annoying that they advertise a salary and don't pay it for 3 months after you start just could be communicated better maybe writing in job description he starting salary and saying will increase to .... amount after 12 week training

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