should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

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totally block all mobile phone signals inside all prisons

yes, it's the only way to be sure
208
64%
yes, simple and totally effective
92
28%
no, searching for mobiles is better
12
4%
no, we can rely on informants
0
No votes
no, the prisoners themselves can hand them in
5
2%
I really don't know, ask me next year
8
2%
 
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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by falkor » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:58 am

AT least two mobile phones or SIM cards every day are found in Liverpool’s prisons.
The number of confiscations shows how prison officers are battling to prevent mobiles, which may be used to assist criminal enterprise beyond cell walls, being brought in.
by Ben Bryant, Liverpool Echo Apr 7 2012
Despite annual pleas for a crackdown many of the devices are still simply thrown over the walls and into the exercise yards.

At HMP Altcourse in Fazakerley, which houses up to 1,204 inmates, at least 637 phones, SIM cards or handsets were confiscated between November 1 2010 and October 31 2011, a freedom of information request showed.

In HMP Liverpool for the same period at least 140 were confiscated.

The findings will be particularly embarrassing for the privately managed Altcourse prison, whose mobile phone problem has attracted criticism from the prisons Independent Monitoring Board.

Its annual report for 2011 stated that its advice on mobile phones has been “studiously ignored” for years.

The Board identified mobile devices as an “ever growing and even harder to find threat to safer custody.”

In 2009, a report by the Board advised that a signal deviator, a device that would effectively block mobile phone transmissions, was an “urgent requirement” for Altcourse, but the equipment is yet to be installed.
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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by PrisonerBen » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:11 pm

I think it is very easy to jump to a wrong conclusion here, when a more subtle approach would shed greater light. In the High Security Estate then the argument for blocking phones may be sustainable. In other categories the argument is more nuanced. How many serious crimes are planned via mobile? Or witnesses intimidated? And can this not be done via third parties on Visits?

And the situation in the Open estate is ludicrous. Allowed to have a mobile outside the Gate on ROTL, illegal past the stipped pole...I have yet to see any argument short of insanity which convinces anyone to bar mobiles from inside Open prisons.

And the point needs to be made again as to why cons use mobiles - the cost and restricted availability of the payphones. Being stuck in a cell without money on the PIN in the midst of a domestic crisis has to be experienced to be appreciated. If this issue was solved then perhaps fewer people would use mobiles.

Just a thought....

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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by Fonesavvy » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:02 pm

With 64 % saying block mobiles it's the only way to be sure.

That looks promising for Fonesavvy. Maybe it will help buffer any negative reactions from problem inmates?

Seems to work ok for the us......

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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by old sweat » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:22 am

Yes they should . see below why.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

When these two violent thugs were jailed, their victims must have felt some sense of relief that they were behind bars and being punished.
The pictures here, however, tell a very different story – because they were actually taken in their cell and posted on Facebook so they could boast about their ‘easy life’ inside.
Behind the pair a PlayStation 2 can be seen, as well as a television that is showing a music channel. Other pictures appear to show a cell filled with a mini-fridge, sound system, piles of snacks and posters of topless glamour models.
'Easy': Sonny Barker, seen left posing in his cell with another prisoner, has been posting pictures of his 'easy' life behind bars on Facebook
'Easy': Sonny Barker, seen left posing with his cellmate Korrel Kennedy, has been posting pictures of his 'easy' life behind bars on Facebook
Sonny Barker, 20, was jailed for eight years after he held a mother and daughter at knifepoint in their home during a burglary. But the serial offender smuggled a phone into his cell at HMP Rochester in Kent to show off his cushy surroundings.
In the pictures posted on his Facebook account, he poses with cellmate Korrel Kennedy, 20, a former Jean Paul Gaultier model, who was jailed for chasing a man with a knife and threatening hospital staff.
In his first post on Facebook on June 29, Barker wrote: ‘What’s happening! Coming from live from prison. Whos (sic) missing me.’ He added: ‘I’ll be home soon. Real soon December 2015.’


When one friend wrote he had ‘it on smash’ – prison slang for living an easy life inside – he replied: ‘When haven’t I had it on smash? Admit it, been bossing since Elmley [Prison].’
Steve Gillan, general secretary of the Prison Officers’ Association, said he was ‘extremely concerned’ about the pictures and boasts. ‘It is nothing short of scandalous and a breach of security,’ he added.
Jonathan Isaby, of the TaxPayers’ Alliance, said: ‘Serious questions need to be asked of the prison authorities to establish how this was able to happen.’ Barker, from Canterbury, was jailed in May last year after he burst into a family home last February wearing a balaclava and held a knife to a woman’s face and then to the stomach of her 16-year-old daughter. The court heard he already had 24 convictions dating back to 2008.


Kennedy was once described as ‘Britain’s worst teen’, but was given a chance to mend his ways and modelled for Jean Paul Gaultier on the catwalk at Paris Men’s Fashion Week. But in 2011 he was jailed for two and a half years after chasing a man with a knife in Brighton city centre and threatening staff at a local hospital.
HMP Rochester is a category-C young offender institution for 650 male offenders deemed untrustworthy and likely to try to escape. Past inspections have found evidence of bullying and a Fight Club-style culture in the prison.
A Prison Service spokesman said: ‘It is a criminal offence to have a mobile phone in prison and any prisoner found with one will be dealt with severely.’


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We all know nothing will happen to these prisoners!

If a phone is found in their cell , both will deny knowledge of it, case cannot be proved as to who owns the phone, case dismissed.

They will say in their defense, yes we had our photo's taken by an un-named prisoner who sent them to a friend - not in prison- who is the manager of our facebook account!

If they are found guilty, then they will loose x amount of days which they will get most back after being good boys for a bit! Wow!

Block all mobiles the technology is out there!

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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by lirjo » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:34 am

if they are hidden . but a boss chair finds them ..BLOCK THE HOLES UP
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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by BenedictM » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:36 pm

falkor wrote:
Mon May 11, 2009 3:46 pm
technology exists to BLOCK mobile phone signals

so, should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED ???
I think so. Would solve a lot of problems.

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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by Alam77 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:08 pm

If you block the signals it will stop the walkie talkie from working too.
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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by Bagpuss » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:37 pm

You can actually jam signals individually, it's not exactly new science! Wifi/3g/4g/gps/rf etc. You can do it locally to within a room/vehicle/building without local disruption. It's not expensive now either so I don't see the reason why it isn't done!
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Re: should all mobile phones in prisons be BLOCKED?

Post by FlamingYeti » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:16 pm

We have some blockers in the prison but they are next to useless, I think the main issue is cost. Someone was telling me the other day my prison would need 4/5 proper blockers and they are 10s of thousands each
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