Ex-Officer Re-joining the service

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Ex-Officer Re-joining the service

Post by gaboo » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:22 pm

Ok a bit of a background to begin with, I first did my POELT back in January '17 at Stirling House, and went live i at my establishment i think it was March that same year.

Between going live and March 2019 i worked the landings at a Cat B local on various wings (all except for inductions really, where i "tried" to help on there when i was on that houseblock but was probably more of a hindrance to staff due to not working on there regularly).

anyways, in March 2019 i was offered a job out of the prison service which was a LOT closer to home (10 mile journey each way as opposed to the 45 i was doing), on similar money (minus bed watches :slsh: ) but better working days working Monday to Friday. I took this job and as such left the service.

Unfortunately since leaving it feels i like i have made a HUGE mistake, and i have always had that nagging want to go back onto the landings. Yes it was probably the hardest job i have ever done, both physically and especially mentally, however it was also the most challenging, enjoyable and ultimately most rewarding job i have ever done.

I had my moment where i wandered if i could do it, and where i honestly struggled going in some days, however i also met some amazing people and friends there.

During my previous application stages, and the first few months on the landings, i found these forums invaluable, but i stupidly then neglected to come on here, thinking i didn't need it any more - a very selfish attitude to have indeed, and one mistake which i wont be repeating, im here to stay now :D

Anyways, long story short, i have now decided enough is enough, I have seen a job in a prison - albeit a YOI - approx 20 miles from where i live, and have applied for that. I have got my ARC (what was wrong with RAD?!?!?!?) booked for the end of February, and hopefully i can get this train rolling again :)
If not us, who? If not now, when?

Applied: 07/16
RAD: 07/16
Results: 08/16
Conditional Offer: 10/16
POELT Started: 01/17
Left Service: 03/19

Re-applied: 01/20
ARC(??): 20/02/20
Results: 24/02/20
Conditional offer - 27/03/20

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Re: Ex-Officer Re-joining the service

Post by Paddy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

Good luck! Hope you get back to where you want to be.
Applied 30/09/19
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Arc Manchester 21/11/19
Extra I.D. taken to be verified 12/12/19
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Vetting Passed 27/01/20
Start date 30/03/20

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Post by londonlad81 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:31 pm

I’m in the same boat, but I joined 9 years ago, although it doesn’t seem it. I too regret not staying in, hoping to get through the process this year.

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Post by gaboo » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:54 pm

londonlad81 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:31 pm
I’m in the same boat, but I joined 9 years ago, although it doesn’t seem it. I too regret not staying in, hoping to get through the process this year.
Good luck with that. hopefully it will all come to fruition. and hopefully there have been some changes in the service, though in fairness even if there hasn't been im still excited about the prospect of returning to the landings
If not us, who? If not now, when?

Applied: 07/16
RAD: 07/16
Results: 08/16
Conditional Offer: 10/16
POELT Started: 01/17
Left Service: 03/19

Re-applied: 01/20
ARC(??): 20/02/20
Results: 24/02/20
Conditional offer - 27/03/20

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Post by londonlad81 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:26 pm

I appreciate many on here haven’t started yet but I got my contract through to join and have a month to go.
Admittedly feeling a bit nervous, got a Mrs, kids and just a few months from turning 40..
Got a relatively secure job, and work 4 days a week, although it’s 12 hours shifts. Christmas Day always off.But job is only 15 minutes away.
Im starting at a new establishment, about 25 miles away , and I know that you can never guarantee finish times if something happens.
I’m just hoping that I do better than before, I felt more of a hindrance last time and no one seemed willing to really help me. I wish I asked for help last time.
I suppose I hope I’m up to the challenge ahead...

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Post by Bearguy » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:22 pm

Bound to be nervous fella.....the people who do the hardest things in life reap the most rewards 👍🏻

I’m very envious of you mate, I wish you the best of luck and I’m sure you are better prepared this time around than the last, otherwise you wouldn’t be going back for more !!

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Post by JCOX4 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:27 pm

London lad, I'm due to start in January and I am also nervous as hell. Not for the challenges that lie ahead but for the changes in my life.
I am leaving a job I've been in for 15years and I earn a bloody good wage(search my previous posts). I work 5 days a week, generally 07:00-17:00 or 06:00-16:00, most of the time im home in time for dinner with my family. Christmas day and boxing day off. Kids birthdays I'm off. I cycle to work in 10 mins. But as a retail manager the stress is unreal. I also have to cancel days off the day before because someone's gone sick, do long 12/15 hour days as I have been given a tip off someones visiting my shop the next day.

I'm changing careers as I want a less stressful life, time at home with the kids where I'm not checking my phone to see whats happening at the shop. I had a holiday abroad last year and was still taking phone calls, emails regarding work. My whole family think I'm crazy and are urging me not to leave my current job. I'm split, but don't want to throw this opportunity away that I've worked so hard for over the last 10 months.
ARC 26/11/19
Offer/vetting started 17/12
Failed vetting 30/12
Appealed 16/01/20
Referred for decision 17/01
Decision overturned 25/02
Offer and vetting 17/03
Vetting passed 21/03
Covid-19 saga
Fitness resit 02/09
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Post by londonlad81 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:12 pm

Bear Guy- you passed vetting so just need to get off that merit list again!
JCOX- Never worked in retail but my friend does and is a manager for Icelands . He has to cover different stores and cover people being sick. People ring him up on his days off so I know it’s tough.. He even took a demotion and pay cut because of the stress.

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Post by JCOX4 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:25 pm

I feel his pain!
ARC 26/11/19
Offer/vetting started 17/12
Failed vetting 30/12
Appealed 16/01/20
Referred for decision 17/01
Decision overturned 25/02
Offer and vetting 17/03
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Covid-19 saga
Fitness resit 02/09
Start 04/01/21 :slcup:

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Re: Ex-Officer Re-joining the service

Post by londonlad81 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:54 pm

Yes wouldn’t want a job where I get pestered at home!

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Post by Beckett » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:20 pm

JCOX4 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:27 pm
London lad, I'm due to start in January and I am also nervous as hell. Not for the challenges that lie ahead but for the changes in my life.
I am leaving a job I've been in for 15years and I earn a bloody good wage(search my previous posts). I work 5 days a week, generally 07:00-17:00 or 06:00-16:00, most of the time im home in time for dinner with my family. Christmas day and boxing day off. Kids birthdays I'm off. I cycle to work in 10 mins. But as a retail manager the stress is unreal. I also have to cancel days off the day before because someone's gone sick, do long 12/15 hour days as I have been given a tip off someones visiting my shop the next day.

I'm changing careers as I want a less stressful life, time at home with the kids where I'm not checking my phone to see whats happening at the shop. I had a holiday abroad last year and was still taking phone calls, emails regarding work. My whole family think I'm crazy and are urging me not to leave my current job. I'm split, but don't want to throw this opportunity away that I've worked so hard for over the last 10 months.
I’m sorry to be negative but being a prison officer is an incredibly stressful job. Whilst you might not be checking your phone about work it can be difficult to leave it at the gate. It’s a whole other world and it can get in the way of family.
What type of establishment are you going to ? Local, resettlement, trainer etc It will make a difference.
Cat b local is in my opinion the toughest.
For the record I started at cat b local - I loved it but it did take over my life. Currently SO at cat C trainer - more settled population and less stressful

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Post by JCOX4 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:09 pm

Thanks Beckett, I understand and accept it will come with stress, but I'm looking for a job that will be less stressful compared to now.
I am going to a catC, can't give much more info than that as it will be obvious which establishment.
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ARC 26/11/19
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Decision overturned 25/02
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Post by londonlad81 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:30 pm

Beckett, some good advice. My current job isn’t particularly stressful and once I’ve finished my shift I don’t take my home with me.
I’m wondering why I’m letting myself go into a stressful job, I guess its the variety and working in a team.

I think the difficult thing is to gain respect from the staff and prisoners, and to know the right way of doing things, you’ll notice some staff do things differently from others which can cause problems..

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Post by Beckett » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:05 pm

Definitely variety not a boring job! Good luck to all starting or re joining .

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Post by londonlad81 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:59 am

I’ve been looking at my contract again recently and must admit the pay isn’t what I’d applied for. In believed the pay for my establishment was £25k and now the starting pay for me is £22,2300.
My current job is local and the same pay, the prison service job is 25 miles away. Taking into account the prison service means you can miss Christmas and birthdays.
So just thinking of the pros and cons.

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