What do you think? previous convictions

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What do you think? previous convictions

Post by JCOX4 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:57 pm

Evening ladies and gents.. Im listing my previous convictions and want to know what you think my chances of passing vetting would be? Ive read many many many posts regarding this but none as sh*T as my past.. a few years ago when i was 16/17 (im now 30) I was hanging about with the wrong people. Felt like I had to do some stuff to fit in with them. Massively realise now the impact I had on peoples lives and how it must of effected them. With a family now myself I realise what I done was terrible and wish I could turn back time. Sadly I cant. Not looking for "you should never be a prison officer" you cant be trusted ect. And yes I know that its "each case is decided on its own"

1. Drink driving (court) 2010 ( I was 20)
2. Using threatening behaviour (court £100 fine) 2007 (I was 17)
3. Theft from motor vehicle (court reparation order 3 months 18 hours com service) 2007 ( I was 17)
4. Carried in vehicle taken without consent (court referral order 3 months) 2006 (I was 16 and im annoyed about this as I only admitted to it to stop my mates dad from getting fired, it was his work van and he took us for lessons in a car park)
5. Theft of cycle (referral order 3 months) 2006 (I was 16)
6. Damage to property (youth reprimand) 2005 ( I was 15)
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ARC 26/11/19
Offer/vetting started 17/12/19
A&C decision 24/12/19
Failed vetting 30/12/19
Appealed 16/01/20
Referred for decision 17/01/20
Decision overturned 25/02/20
Offer and vetting 17/03/20
Vetting passed 21/03/20
Covid-19 saga
Start 27/07/20

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Re: What do you think?

Post by northorsouth » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:41 am

I'd say as most of your convictions were many years ago and definitely spent in terms of regular jobs, that if you declare and explain them you may have a good chance but I might be worth calling SSCL to discuss all of them beforehand?

If you google their number and get yourself through to the recruitment team they'll be able to have a chat and advise you with a bit better knowledge (or so one would hope)
Applied 09/08/19
Online tests 11/08/19
Results 12/08/19
Arc Manchester 05/09/19
Officially passed arc 06/09/19
Initial offer 17/09/19
Vetting begun 18/09/19
The call 08/10/19
Start 11/11/19

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Re: What do you think?

Post by falkor » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:37 am

I concur with NOS

JCOX you said you passed your ARC and they must have known of your pre-cons then so that is a pretty good sign! you said you were coming from a store manager role £40k per year and I should a imagine a reference from them will mean a lot , REDEMPTION!! :slhe:

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Re: What do you think?

Post by JCOX4 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:18 am

Thanks for the motivation people. :slhehe: Gives me a little hope. I have a number for SSCL but it cost a small fortune to call them. Do you know of an alternative free number?
ARC 26/11/19
Offer/vetting started 17/12/19
A&C decision 24/12/19
Failed vetting 30/12/19
Appealed 16/01/20
Referred for decision 17/01/20
Decision overturned 25/02/20
Offer and vetting 17/03/20
Vetting passed 21/03/20
Covid-19 saga
Start 27/07/20

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Re: What do you think?

Post by northorsouth » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:37 am

I’ve experienced this and the £36 extra on my phone bill for calling them...perhaps just call and ask them to ring you back as I’m not aware of another number
Applied 09/08/19
Online tests 11/08/19
Results 12/08/19
Arc Manchester 05/09/19
Officially passed arc 06/09/19
Initial offer 17/09/19
Vetting begun 18/09/19
The call 08/10/19
Start 11/11/19

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Re: What do you think?

Post by JCOX4 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:48 am

Morning all,
I have received an email this morning saying my vetting level is enhanced basline standard. Is this the usual level or is it a higher check due to my history?
Cheers and merry christmas :D
ARC 26/11/19
Offer/vetting started 17/12/19
A&C decision 24/12/19
Failed vetting 30/12/19
Appealed 16/01/20
Referred for decision 17/01/20
Decision overturned 25/02/20
Offer and vetting 17/03/20
Vetting passed 21/03/20
Covid-19 saga
Start 27/07/20

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Re: What do you think?

Post by JCOX4 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:56 pm

Now showing referred for decision :slsad: don't think thats a good thing as its only been a week. Maybe took 1 look at my declared convictions and thought f dat lets not waste our time vetting any further... I do hope not
ARC 26/11/19
Offer/vetting started 17/12/19
A&C decision 24/12/19
Failed vetting 30/12/19
Appealed 16/01/20
Referred for decision 17/01/20
Decision overturned 25/02/20
Offer and vetting 17/03/20
Vetting passed 21/03/20
Covid-19 saga
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Re: What do you think?

Post by northorsouth » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:06 pm

Vetting can take 12 weeks, they say to allow that but some people have waited a hell of a lot longer so don’t stress now

Remember the time of year too and the vetting people arent likely to be working now until early January, sit back and enjoy your Christmas then get on the case in new year. Even if vetting fails you can appeal and get through, guy I'm training with had a very similar thing and he’s all good now after an appeal

Have a good Christmas :slsm:
Applied 09/08/19
Online tests 11/08/19
Results 12/08/19
Arc Manchester 05/09/19
Officially passed arc 06/09/19
Initial offer 17/09/19
Vetting begun 18/09/19
The call 08/10/19
Start 11/11/19

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Re: What do you think?

Post by Snowy206 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:21 pm

Jcox, I am in the same boat..... been in vetting 1 week. Counter signatory Ha's responds and yesterday I got an appointment for oh call in new year. At least we know something is moving.
Good luck 🤞

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Re: What do you think?

Post by Snowy206 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:43 am

Mine has just changed back to pre- employment checks so nice to see someone must be working!? 😆

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Re: What do you think?

Post by northorsouth » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:24 am

You’ll find it chops and changes a fair bit during vetting, it’s quite frustrating but I think it’s down to all the elements involved, referees doing bits as and when they do and so on
You may have put a previous job in to end 31st of a month but your employer put down you finished on a slightly different date and then your personal reference needs to cover the small gap etc

Just hang in there with it and you’ll get a call when you least expect it, Mine was about 8pm after I’d been in from work and was watching soaps about 3 months earlier than expected too!
Applied 09/08/19
Online tests 11/08/19
Results 12/08/19
Arc Manchester 05/09/19
Officially passed arc 06/09/19
Initial offer 17/09/19
Vetting begun 18/09/19
The call 08/10/19
Start 11/11/19

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Re: What do you think?

Post by Snowy206 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:45 am

Yes not expecting anything for a good while yet as only been 10 day but been self employed for 6 years and hold dbs so hopefully won't make it to 12 weeks!?!

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Re: What do you think?

Post by Snowy206 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:46 am

Wow just seen your vetting was very quick! Fingers crossed that I get that lucky?

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Re: What do you think?

Post by JCOX4 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:17 pm

At least you know somethings going on Snowy. Mine still says referred for decision. Now im looking at it either A, they have looked at my application and thought, naa we dont want him, red stamp with a big NO across, or B my establishment are seriously desperate for staff and my application has been super duper fast tracked :slro:

One can dream
ARC 26/11/19
Offer/vetting started 17/12/19
A&C decision 24/12/19
Failed vetting 30/12/19
Appealed 16/01/20
Referred for decision 17/01/20
Decision overturned 25/02/20
Offer and vetting 17/03/20
Vetting passed 21/03/20
Covid-19 saga
Start 27/07/20

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Re: What do you think?

Post by Snowy206 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:48 pm

Lol keep the faith all will come good eventually :slbg:

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