Prison job Promotion/Salaries

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Re: Prison job Promotion/Salaries

Post: # 136016Post LauCham
Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:21 pm

Why start a career and only plan to stay for 5 years?

Out of genuine curiosity, I'm not being sassy.
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Post: # 136026Post purplepig20
Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:22 pm

You can opt to pay into a private pension scheme if you so wish.
Personally, I think you’d be crazy to not have some sort of pension pot for yourself, but it’s entirely your choice.
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Re: Prison job Promotion/Salaries

Post: # 136058Post Mike Hunt
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:38 pm

LauCham wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:21 pm
Why start a career and only plan to stay for 5 years?

Out of genuine curiosity, I'm not being sassy.
People will be on a reserve list that want to make HMP a career and you just want to do 5 years?

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Post: # 136061Post falkor
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:00 pm

Mike you ask the question for the second time on this very page.

and yet there could be a number of obvious / valid reasons.

the person's age, the person's family plans/ travel plans, we don't know and if they want to clarify, then give them time , I'm sure the reason is a good one :slwin:

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Re: Prison job Promotion/Salaries

Post: # 136063Post Mike Hunt
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:01 pm

Apologies just thought it was a waste of position.

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Post: # 136072Post LauCham
Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:04 pm

I wouldn't say a waste of a position, a waste of a position would be somebody wanting to do the job for the wrong reasons.
Somebody can put a lot into the service in 5 years and give it their all for that time and get a lot of reward from it also. I was just genuinely curious as to why they're planning a 5 year long stint that was all
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Post: # 136090Post jana10
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:40 am

prison officers on average die 15 years earlier than the national average age of death - due to stress related illnesses = this is not a job for life.

I am 3 years into a 5 year psychology degree, not only is prison interesting work that pays well, I will also have great experience with working with vulnerable adults which will help as I am working towards becoming a therapist.
I have a part time job as a doorman which I love, I've been working in an office for too long and need to stretch out, I initially wanted to join the police but the starting pay is terrible for london.

I do want to have a pension but I wrongly thought that unless I do a minimum number of years (e.g. 10) then I wouldnt get a pension. But i've been told that even if I leave after 5 years I will still collect a small payment at retirement
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Re: Prison job Promotion/Salaries

Post: # 136092Post purplepig20
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:56 am

If you opt for the private pension scheme, you may be able to continue paying into that one if you move on to another job. It’s worth checking out. Better to have something than nothing at all.
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Post: # 136093Post jana10
Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:10 am

yeah a private one is defo something I will look into. But I think the percentage that the prison pays into it would make it worth while even if its just for 5 years. I may start a private one on top of that?
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Post: # 136095Post TheCat
Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:11 am

People moaning about someone planning to stay for five years makes me laugh. On average only 10% of those passing college will still be in the service in two years time. If everyone stayed a minimum of five years the service would be in a much stronger position.

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Re: Prison job Promotion/Salaries

Post: # 136117Post LauCham
Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:32 pm

Interesting stuff Jana10, wasn't aware! fair enough reason and sensible to be thinking of it like that. Not that you had to explain yourself but thanks for an interesting answer. Good luck with it!
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Re: Prison job Promotion/Salaries

Post: # 136122Post SWM5436
Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:16 pm

TheCat wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:11 am
People moaning about someone planning to stay for five years makes me laugh. On average only 10% of those passing college will still be in the service in two years time. If everyone stayed a minimum of five years the service would be in a much stronger position.
I think if more people were truthful with their accounts of what the job is really like you would weed half the candidates out, I understand the recruitment drive needs people but if things are sugar coated then people are going to go in to it not knowing what to expect. A female officer was recently beaten and taken in to a sexual predators cell where had the prisoners not raised the alarm she would have been violated but there is no coverage of mention of it here.

It does interest me that only a low percentage stay in the job for greater than 2 years, everyone I spoke to on my 2 visits to my establishment loved it and the majority had been there greater than 2 years, only a handful had been there less.

It would be interesting to know per prison which one has the best and worst retention.

But to get back on track, all wages are listed in the Pay Review Board published earlier this year and you can apply for promotion after you finish your 1st years probation.
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Re: Prison job Promotion/Salaries

Post: # 136147Post falkor
Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:48 pm

there is no coverage or mention of it here?

start a thread on it! FRONT DOOR is the place I look forward to reading it and commenting

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