POELT... a few of the rules to adhere to.

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Re: POELT... a few of the rules to adhere to.

Post by FlamingYeti » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:38 pm

My course location does not have "residential" accommodation however I have been provided a hotel, I live 56miles away from course location, I have a colleague on my course who lives 48 miles from the course and was told he was not entitled to a hotel. Take from that what you will.

If you have not grown a beard (to atleast what the navy would refer to as a "full set") I would keep up with shaving.

I would like to stress the importance of being on time everyday, we had someone removed from our course today 5 weeks in for being late about 5 times
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Post by roninwarrior83 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:42 pm

On shaving I dont ATM and haven't for a good while, this is because I get psoriasis on my face and if I have the burn is horrific. If I get a doctors note I'm assuming that this would be ok?

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Post by NeedToKnowBasis » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:47 pm

Ronin, there's no problem with you having a beard.

However, the Gandalf look is not the one to go for. Keep your beard neat and under control and there's no issue. Remember what I've posted about beards making great grab-handles!

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Post by roninwarrior83 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:02 pm

I don't wear a full beard as my psoriasis gets worse due to lack of sun light. What I do is clipper it back as far as I can with a trimmer. Wet shaving or electric shaving really irritate it tho hence why I avoid, as my face feels like it's on fire for the whole day.....

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Post by FlamingYeti » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:07 pm

Just don't look like you woke up on a park bench you should be ok.
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Post by roninwarrior83 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:11 pm

Cool thanks no chance of that I take pride in wearing uniform. But I'll speak to my GP to get a chit anyway just to be safe as I don't want the staff thinking I'm being an awkward twat

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Post by K123 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:54 pm

As was mentioned some one was kicked off poelt for being late. Do many people get asked to leave, or is there many dropouts during poelt?
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Post by Daniel1988 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:07 pm

Late 5 times in the first couple of months??? What job would stand for that? Let alone one with enormous responsibility. Good riddans would be a nightmare to work with.

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Post by Andy888 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:20 pm

Definitely Daniel, not like it's even long days really, pretty average hours and no justification for being late more than once or twice for the entire 10 weeks I'd say!. Maybe some clown who thought it a 10 week party or something or some serious lack of self discipline and timing!.

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Post by AJ 2017 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:13 am

Late 5 times! what an absolute waste of an opportunity tbh though when you have wife/girlfriend etc and kids you give up the right to be lazy or late for your job

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Post by SgtBush » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:20 am

Poelt start and finish times are a dream compared to rota detail !!!
If you cant manage a 10am start on a Monday with a 12 midday finish Friday with one ED thrown in per week then bye bye.
Always always ALWAYS be 10 mins early.
The importance of this is you cannot unlock a wing without the correct amount of staff.
If your late someone has to be pulled from elsewhere in the jail to cover your job.
Staff will get pissed off
Senior staff will get to know your name quickly
Governors too. Your a burden and other staff are picking up your slack. You cost money that can be better spent elsewhere.
Your colleagues will eventually resent you, your working day will be not very nice as people all not want to work with you.
If you cant be relied on to get somewhere on time how can you be relied on to assist a colleague that is fighting a prisoner who has a shank?
Not only that think of the member of staff that has just worked a 8.30 to 2100 A shift... I'm sure they would like a 15-20 min dart, I'm sure you would appreciate it

Poelt is the best time of your career, make the most of it.. Have fun but have those professional boundaries.

Make your name known by being reliable, knowledgeable and professional. Staff will respect you and the day will be full of laughter.
Go the other way and you will eventually be alienated.

Now I know sometimes people are late, car trouble, other factors but ring up and let them know as early as possible. Make it the exception rather Than the rule.

I've been late twice in 15 years. Once when my car had a blow out... AA fixed it and once when I was rear ended on way to work.

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Re: POELT... a few of the rules to adhere to.

Post by K123 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:23 am

Do many people actually drop out?
22nd April - RAD
28th April - RAD results passed/OH Assist Returned
12th May - Merit Listed
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Re: POELT... a few of the rules to adhere to.

Post by NeedToKnowBasis » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:27 am

SgtBush wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:20 am
Poelt start and finish times are a dream compared to rota detail !!!
If you cant manage a 10am start on a Monday with a 12 midday finish Friday with one ED thrown in per week then bye bye.
Always always ALWAYS be 10 mins early... etc. etc. etc.
:slag: This entire post is one of the best pieces of advice you will find on these forums. :slcl:

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Re: POELT... a few of the rules to adhere to.

Post by K123 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:29 am

Sorry to ask the question but what's an ED? 🙈
22nd April - RAD
28th April - RAD results passed/OH Assist Returned
12th May - Merit Listed
1st August - Conditional Offer/Submitted Vetting

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Re: POELT... a few of the rules to adhere to.

Post by SgtBush » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:32 am

Well NTKB, without giving too much away on forums.....
I was taught by someone professional who was taught by someone professional......
3rd generation and I'm passing it on to a new recruit who is shadowing this week...
Stay safe :slcl:

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