anti corruption

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Re: anti corruption

Post by SgtBush » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:06 pm

Prisoners know that already, they are not stupid.
The officer acted appropriately apart from saying its in the obs book

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Re: anti corruption

Post by Kangaroo » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:08 pm

What in your opinion is wrong with saying that? Interesting to see how we all think differently

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Re: anti corruption

Post by SgtBush » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:32 pm

You just say are you ok, not that its been documented.
Sometimes the obs book is left open and prisoners being honest people they are wil try to get a sneek peek at it thru the bubble windows...
If they read it the person saying they are in debt will be labled a grass

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Re: anti corruption

Post by Kangaroo » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:48 pm

With you. The book should always be closed when not in use. But if it's an officer thats reported it....same rules? You have been in the job live for 8 months or so. What's your dos and donts as a newbie?

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Re: anti corruption

Post by SgtBush » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:55 pm

Quantify your question please.
An officers job is to report and document anything that is outside the norm.
I may be only live as an officer for 8 months but I've worked with prisoners for 10 years.

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Re: anti corruption

Post by Thinkdeep » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:57 pm

Sarge, I agree with you :slcl:

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Re: anti corruption

Post by Harty89 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:05 am

OK I know not to be yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir! But from my rad i feel like im getting in to a customer service role with the risk of aggro/violence involved. Where as In my mind i am walking into a locked building full of unfortunate people with mood swings that i will have to p*ss off with demand rejection every now and then! How does the job differ from the training (aimed at those in the role already)

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Re: anti corruption

Post by SWM5436 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:31 am

In my opinion, the officer could have and should have worded his question differently as Sarge suggests, the obs book should be closed and only opened to be read by staff to catch up on events or when someone is putting an entry in, this ensures not only personal security but the security of those that may be the subject of those observations.

Don’t know if it’s because we have had this drummed in to us being in the military, but any time anyone comes in to an office, that shouldn’t be there and we have sensitive information in it, we will close it or put it away or if we are leaving for even an hour it is secured away.
It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity

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Re: anti corruption

Post by Kangaroo » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:56 am

Prevention is better than cure.

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Re: anti corruption

Post by danboy17 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:05 pm

Anybody else see the article in the Star on Sunday about the £400 offered to an officer for a KFC.

Don’t forget to be careful what you post if journos are lurking.

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Re: anti corruption

Post by danboy17 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:13 pm

Good idea.
Probably best if the person who originally posted it let their establishment know as well as can imagine they’ll be looking into where the story came from

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Re: anti corruption

Post by SWM5436 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:32 pm

So we have a spy in our midst.....
It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity

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Re: anti corruption

Post by Huntsman22 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Just read the article. Just shows how important discretion and persec are
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Re: anti corruption

Post by BigDave » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:36 pm

99% of cell bells after bang up are "guv,guv... can you light me this wick" or "next door but one has a rizla for me" etc. I explain I'm not room service and tell them to jog on and explain, all they can have is a toilet roll or an iep. Most of the time when I open the flap and ask what's the emergency, they're like "oh it's you guv, id doesn't matter"
You always get the odd sausage who says "if you don't get me a light, I'm gonna cover up and start slashing up!" Then show me a razor blade, like I give a fu*k, So I tell them "you're an adult, that's your choice and I'll manage it when it happens, and you're still not having a light" :slre:
As said above, don't cave in and get them what they want, or they'll run you ragged.

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