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Re: Criminal record

Post by Chill123 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:28 pm

LauCham, sorry if you think I'm being rude but I for one think your wrong, I was done for drink driving when I was 17! You don't know her story, here's mine tho had a couple of drinks on a sat night woke up thought I was fine jumped in my car to go back to camp got stopped did a breath test came back with 38.5 bang 1 year ban....... I know 2 prison officers who have drink driving on there file,I could say people with morages shouldn't be a prison officer because they could be bribed if they fell behind on payment I'm not the SScl either are you

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OH Assist call - 11/12
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Re: Criminal record

Post by thunderchild » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:56 pm

How long ago was it you were 17? I imagine you're now some years older and wise enough to understand that how much you have to drink the night before is likely to impact your ability to drive the next day.

2015 was only three years ago, this is when Natasha was caught drink driving. This is on top of the other cautions she has. She's already disclosed this earlier on in the thread.

Using people with 'mortgages' (I'm assuming this is what you meant) as a comparison to someone being caught for drink driving is false equivalence.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest Natasha gains some experience as say a support worker prior to her applying for a Prison Officer role in the future. Perhaps in a few years she can prove herself, so to speak.

But yeah, you're right. It's down to the vetting team.

It'll be interesting to find out either way.
15/11/17 - RAD
16/11/17 - Passed RAD notification
17/11/17 - Merit listed
18/11/17 - Second establishment applied for
08/12/17 - Conditional offer
10/12/17 - VETTING
15/12/17 - OH clearance

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Re: Criminal record

Post by Elkins17 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:03 pm

Agree with thunder. It shows she didn’t learn from her “mistakes”. There is never an excuse for drink driving.
3/12/2017-RAD
4/12/2017 PASSED RAD
6/12/2017 all aboard the vetting train
7/12/2017 OH assist cleared
18/1/2018 referred for decision

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Re: Criminal record

Post by Chill123 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:10 pm

Thunderchild yes sorry I am now 28, so still young 😂 , n.a. I've grown up a lot,I was young single man in the army so it speaks for its self
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Re: Criminal record

Post by Elkins17 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:11 pm

Im 28 and I class myself as old 😂🤦🏽‍♀️
3/12/2017-RAD
4/12/2017 PASSED RAD
6/12/2017 all aboard the vetting train
7/12/2017 OH assist cleared
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Re: Criminal record

Post by Chill123 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:13 pm

Elkins17 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:03 pm
Agree with thunder. It shows she didn’t learn from her “mistakes”. There is never an excuse for drink driving.
Yes so true! I could of killed some or even myself, i would never do it again
RAD - 12/09
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Re: Criminal record

Post by Elkins17 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:14 pm

And that is remorse! she’s simply defended her actions.
3/12/2017-RAD
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6/12/2017 all aboard the vetting train
7/12/2017 OH assist cleared
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Re: Criminal record

Post by falkor » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:16 pm

AND there are different shades of drink driving

35 micrograms of alcohol for every 100 millilitres of breath is the limit

somebody who was 38.5 and got charged is pretty unlucky because although 38.5 IS over the limit , the CPS don't normally go ahead unless 40+
Although the prescribed breath alcohol limit is 35 micrograms, a driver will not be prosecuted under section 5 with a breath alcohol level of less than 40 micrograms
maybe in a case of an accident or dangerous driving the CPS could decide to go ahead anyway but 38.5 is very near the limit

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Re: Criminal record

Post by thunderchild » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:17 pm

17 to 28 might not seem like much, but people change SO much between their late teens to late twenties.

Toward the end of my 20's I can safely say I was an entirely different person to who I was when I was 18. :slre:
15/11/17 - RAD
16/11/17 - Passed RAD notification
17/11/17 - Merit listed
18/11/17 - Second establishment applied for
08/12/17 - Conditional offer
10/12/17 - VETTING
15/12/17 - OH clearance

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Re: Criminal record

Post by Chill123 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:22 pm

falkor wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:16 pm
AND there are different shades of drink driving

35 micrograms of alcohol for every 100 millilitres of breath is the limit

somebody who was 38.5 and got charged is pretty unlucky because although 38.5 IS over the limit , the CPS don't normally go ahead unless 40+
Although the prescribed breath alcohol limit is 35 micrograms, a driver will not be prosecuted under section 5 with a breath alcohol level of less than 40 micrograms
maybe in a case of an accident or dangerous driving the CPS could decide to go ahead anyway but 38.5 is very near the limit
I was a cheeky 17 year old 😑😑 no crash and did the breath test was just unlucky
RAD - 12/09
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OH Assist form - 13/09
Offer - 17/09
Vetting - 23/09
OH Assist call - 11/12
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Re: Criminal record

Post by thunderchild » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:25 pm

Elkins17 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:14 pm
And that is remorse! she’s simply defended her actions.
This counts for SO much.
15/11/17 - RAD
16/11/17 - Passed RAD notification
17/11/17 - Merit listed
18/11/17 - Second establishment applied for
08/12/17 - Conditional offer
10/12/17 - VETTING
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Re: Criminal record

Post by LauCham » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:27 pm

Chilli I dont think you rude, you have an opinion that you should voice.

i just think that have a drink drive conviction 2 years ago with cautions previous to that is too close to the bone and what got my back up is back up the post one of Natashas comments were along the lines of 'a drink drive is not that bad' its the mindset that bothers me
20/11/17 - Applied
11/12/17 - RAD
12/12/17 - Conditional Offer :slyay:
14/12/17 - On the Vetting train 🚂
03/01/18 - OH assist call
05/01/18 - OH assist clearance

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Re: Criminal record

Post by Natasha1980 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:42 pm

:slcup:
24/5/2017 Rad passed
5/6/2017 OH clearance
26/10/2017 conditional offer
27/10/2017 Vetting begins
5/11/2017 HMRC check
22/12/2017 referred for a decision :slre:
27/12/17 unsatisfactory pre employment
27/12/17 appealed
15/1/18 referred for a decision

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Re: Criminal record

Post by Bastian » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:51 pm

You are an absolute fruitloop Natasha.

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Re: Criminal record

Post by Huntsman22 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:56 pm

Hahahaha :slag:
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